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Post by Scumhunter on Aug 21, 2016 8:47:57 GMT -5
It's the debate that never gets old! While many of us here like The Hunt, there still seems to be some divide when it comes to leftover AMW fans.
Basically, some fans of America's Most Wanted liked the fast paced style that allowed them to show a multitude of fugitives and other cases an episode. But because of this, a lot of key details are left out or just skimmed over. For example, it was never mentioned on America's Most Wanted that Yaser Said may have allegedly molested his daughters in addition to shooting and killing them.
While The Hunt of course only shows 1-2 fugitives or cases, but goes into a lot more detail. Still, one can make the argument that more bad guys would be caught if they ever changed the format and that with it being sort of a court of last resort, they are limiting the amount of people that could be helped.
Anyway, if this were me two years ago, I would have voted YES! change the format, however, I voted No! Don't change the format as I found it has really grown on me. I like learning more details on the fugitives.
Also, while I always say any capture is a good capture, I feel like AMW gave you a better chance of getting you at least one capture overall from an episode, but The Hunt will give a better chance of catching that one or two particular fugitive(s) from an episode. So an AMW episode may pick up a random gang banger and a 15-seconds of shame drug dealer every week (not that they didn't have huge captures as well of course) but The Hunt will give you a better chance of getting the big fish with no other captures for that month. (See, Paul Jackson).
Plus, if you only get 8 episodes anyway, might as well focus on specific cases since even if you did 3-4 fugitives an episode, it's still nowhere near as many as AMW would profile in a single season.
That being said if AMW ever came back, I think they should not follow the Hunt's lead. Since they would be a breaking news show again, they would once again need to cover as many cases as possible. The Hunt is an overall documentary fugitive show, and their emphasis is not on breaking news. Not to mention, I don't think a fast pace would fit The Hunt's non-verbal re-enactment style.
Anyway, how does everyone else feel? Sorry for the long essay, I had no idea I was going to post that much in advance lol.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Aug 21, 2016 14:44:50 GMT -5
I would advocate a small change to the format. Re-allocate a minute or two per episode to a 15 Seconds of Shame segment that airs 4 other fugitives that might be easier to solve, about midway through each episode, before transitioning from one 3-part profile to the next.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Aug 22, 2016 12:10:44 GMT -5
I voted yes to The Hunt's current format as it goes into great detail in talking about one case and at the same time discuss details that weren't ever brought up to the public (ex.. The Robert Fisher sighting on the highway). So I don't think The Hunt's format shouldn't be changed for now but perhaps in the future say 3-5 years from now they can start doing more like 3 cases an episode to cover more ground that way although I did like AMWs format and missed it over the course of The Hunt's first season, I've come to appreciate it, though the show may decide to profile more cases in one episode in the future, but it won't be going back to AMWs format unless John Walsh or the Production company or whoever is in charge decided to overhaul the format of the show.
Profiling less cases can get the fugitive(s) stuck in the viewers head, remember how they look as well as watching for certain characteristics and be tempted to submit a tip if they think they've seen them. So the current format is very effective.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Aug 22, 2016 12:33:13 GMT -5
Since The Hunt is doing much better in the ratings than the last few seasons of AMW, I say to keep the current format. The only adjustment I would do is just do one episode focusing on just one story and the other seven episodes to focus on two stories. That shouldn't be too difficult to manage.
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 10, 2016 1:52:27 GMT -5
While I made my list for which cases deserved an hour long segment, I've just noticed that The Hunt hasn't featured an Unsolved Murder case yet. It's only been dominated by fugitives and missing persons so far and I was wondering if you guys think they should be on the show?
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 10, 2016 1:57:45 GMT -5
Personally because of The Hunt's limited format I prefer only fugitive cases and missing child cases if there is a known abductor (like with Megan Everett/Lily Baumann). John Walsh claimed they were going to do an unsolved murder case this season of a socialite murdered in upstate NY that Walsh was actually friends with, but it wasn't aired. Maybe it will be on next season instead. I wouldn't mind one unsolved murder case but there has to be something like the suspect clearly on a video (like with the Kurt Levias murder case.) Or an alias known but not the real name (like the J.C. Giles case on AMW)
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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Sept 10, 2016 2:00:59 GMT -5
I gotcha and well I hope you don't mind me asking but would Alexandra Anaya fit the bill? I know there is no solid identified suspect but wouldn't that case be fitting for The Hunt? Perhaps it may jog a viewers memory if they recall seeing something that day.
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Post by Scumhunter on Sept 10, 2016 2:24:02 GMT -5
Alex Anaya case would be a decent selection since Rodolfo Heredia is a known possible suspect in the case. (Anaya case would be a no brainer for AMW to showcase of course.)
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Post by severin on Oct 18, 2016 8:26:53 GMT -5
That being said if AMW ever came back, I think they should not follow the Hunt's lead. Since they would be a breaking news show again, they would once again need to cover as many cases as possible.
Agreed. It's one thing for a new show to emulate an old show, but it's another for an old show to emulate a new one. If AMW were to be revived one day, it would need to be revived as the AMW we know and recognize, not as a clone of another TV show.
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Post by danwind on Oct 18, 2016 20:56:38 GMT -5
I think they should filmed more episodes for next year season, Maybe it's will help get more attention.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 19, 2016 3:49:48 GMT -5
I think they should filmed more episodes for next year season, Maybe it's will help get more attention. The Hunt can only do as many episodes as CNN allows them. CNN only gives even their highest rated original shows (such as The Hunt and Anthony Bourdain's "Parts Unknow") only 8 episodes a season. The only hope is they can give The Hunt 2 seasons a year as opposed to just one. |
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Post by TheWebDetective on Oct 19, 2016 18:02:25 GMT -5
When growing up with AMW, I always loved it's fast paced and breaking news format. Always an interesting feeling to see what batch of bad guys, missing people and cold cases they would showcase. But over the years since it's cancellation, I grew more critical of this format. Sure, more bad guys and cases covered means the possibility of one of them being solved. But with so many cases being covered, you skim over info and details which can possibly get a viewer to help solve the case, which was the point of AMW to begin with. With that in mind, a lot of AMW's segments serve the same purpose as one of those crime segments in the local news, just on a national level. You just know a bad thing took place with a bad person, but won't think much of it. So unless it's covered multiple times such a segment is only a footnote we forget or don't even know existed.
If anything, I think that AMW's format had outlived it's usefulness by the end of it's run. With TV in a crossroads and us living with an internet with sites that profiles cases with more info, something with a format like AMW maybe outdated. Overtime, I grew to appreciate the documentary and detail-foucused format of the Hunt which is already making an impact.
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Post by danwind on Oct 19, 2016 18:38:25 GMT -5
I think they should filmed more episodes for next year season, Maybe it's will help get more attention. The Hunt can only do as many episodes as CNN allows them. CNN only gives even their highest rated original shows (such as The Hunt and Anthony Bourdain's "Parts Unknow") only 8 episodes a season. The only hope is they can give The Hunt 2 seasons a year as opposed to just one. Well, Ok, I just voice my opinion |
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Post by umandamwfan on Oct 24, 2016 3:35:34 GMT -5
I tried watching it - I'm not as big of a fan of this style of production (it reminds me of Joe Kenda's show). But if it helps solve cases....Obviously the ratings weren't good enough for Lifetime/Fox with the old style. I don't get it.
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Post by Scumhunter on Oct 24, 2016 3:53:17 GMT -5
Yeah what I was told from someone who was a producer of AMW was it wasn't really the ratings (which admittedly were not that great but better than what Lifetime previously had on Friday nights) but the cost of the Fox licensing fees that led to ultimate cancellation.
Off-topic somewhat but welcome to the forum! I definitely remember you from the amw.com prosperous forums! (I lurked as getthebadguy and posted more often when I lost the password for that registration and rejoined as fishemout.)
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