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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 29, 2015 23:50:40 GMT -5
 Fugitive Profile as of March 30th, 2015 (based on AMW archive, FDLE Most Wanted search): Full Name: Carey Carl Price Date of Birth: 10/14/1968 (46 years old) Race: White Sex: Male Height: 5'9" Weight: 180 Traits & Habits: Police say he's a womanizer, likes to hang out at bars, has worked at the medical supply field and information technology Last Seen: Orange County, Florida Possible Locations: Florida, Alabama, Bahamas TIPS: If you have any information on the whereabouts of Carey Price, call the FDLE reporting agency at (407) 836-4357 or submit a web tip to them at the following link: pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/setupTip.a?itemSequence=107993768&entityType=WantedPerson
Carey Carl Price was aired at least twice on America's Most Wanted. Below is a somewhat recent article on the case: ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — A Seminole County father was hit and killed by a drunk driver as he worked along State Road 417 ten years ago. Grady Hill's family hopes a new memorial can help bring his killer to justice. On Monday, Hill's family and the Florida Department of Transportation placed a memorial near University Boulevard where Hill was killed. Traci Hill, Grady Hill's daughter, said it's been hard not having her father there for birthdays, dances and graduations. "I really knew he would be proud of me, but really wanted him to be there," said Traci Hill. According to police reports, Hill and two coworkers were working construction on S.R. 417 when Cary Carl Price's car slammed into them. Hill's co-workers were injured, but the 38-year old father of four was killed. "Just being able to hug him, that's what I miss the most is being able to hug my dad," said Traci Hill. Price was arrested after the crash and faced DUI manslaughter charges, but after bonding out of jail he disappeared. Hill's family said they hope the newly installed memorial will do more than just remind people to drive safely. They said they want people to remember that Price is still on the run. Investigators said he took off after he bonded out of jail and may be in hiding in Alabama or the Bahamas. Traci Hill is now 21 and she has a message for Price or anyone who may know where he is. "It's been too long. Let us move on because, having to bring it up every year, instead of remembering who my dad was we have to remember how he was taken," said Traci Hill. The family believes people in central Florida have been in contact with Price. If you have any information about Price's whereabouts, you are asked to call the Orange County Sheriff's Office. Thoughts? I realize Florida's a big state and unfortunately DUI manslaughter is not exclusive to any state, but there seems to be so many more of these cases in Florida compared to other states. And once again, it seems to me to be a case of a DUI where someone gets killed but it's not taken seriously enough. As mentioned on The Hunt's profile of Chris Ponce, if you kill someone with a gun or knife, you don't get bail (in most cases- obviously we've seen exceptions on AMW/The Hunt). You kill someone with a car, you kill still someone. That should be enough, but not for Florida judges apparently. I also found a Facebook page dedicated to finding Price when researching this case, along with an age-enhanced photo that shows what he *might* look like today. I will post the photo along with other links related to the case below:  web.archive.org/web/20050220023935/http://www.amw.com/fugitives/profile.cfm?id=30262www.wftv.com/news/news/local/family-hopes-memorial-will-help-lead-fathers-kille/nZFQ7/www.facebook.com/carey.c.price.9 |
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Post by HeadMarshal on Mar 30, 2015 11:20:15 GMT -5
I don't deny that driving intoxicated and killing someone as a result is serious, but from a legal charge perspective, murder is taken more seriously than manslaughter. Do I think that those charged with any type of manslaughter should be allowed bail, no, but that's how individual charges work in the legal system.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Mar 30, 2015 12:55:54 GMT -5
I remember they aired Carey Carl Price 2-4 times on the 15 Seconds of Shame from 2005 to 2007. In fact, there was one airing in circa July of '005 where he was the last remaining fugitive left at large, and all 7 or 8 other fugitives from that airing went down rather quickly.
I used to think that all 3 victims died in the wreck, but now I know the toll was 1 dead, 2 wounded. The multiple casualties are all I need to say that this case stands out from the typical fatal car wreck.
And I know there have been a lot of fatal car wrecks in Florida, including Christopher Ponce, but in 2011, AMW also named Brian Dale Andrews their 50/50 fugitive #FL2. I also think that Capture #144, Sally Jill Woodland, Capture #592, Ramon Ovalles, and Capture #711, Olin Earl Young, were wanted out of Florida for fatal car wrecks.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 6, 2015 17:57:32 GMT -5
Ok in the interest of fairness I will post the following claims-
Someone said domestic violence charges that can be found by Googling Carey Price were thrown out so that shouldn't factor in to his current case. I'll accept that, although not all cases thrown out in courts aren't without merit, it was thrown out, and therefore besides mentioning he was accused we won't go into referencing that. They also say Carey was a good man who didn't "intentionally" murder anyone. However, no one accused Carey of intentionally setting out to murder someone. He allegedly drove drunk when he shouldn't have and wound up killing someone as a result. And still hasn't answered to defend himself.
I always say freedom of speech is more than welcome on this forum- even if you think a fugitive is innocent- but it should be mentioned beforehand you will defend a fugitive without attacking anyone or slandering the victim.
While granted the member didn't say anything too bad, they registered under false pretenses- they claimed they wanted to "answer a question" about a fugitive- there was no question answered- just defending a fugitive while not once mentioning the victims- therefore they're banned. If they had been honest in the first place about why they were posting, I would have allowed them. In other words, the proper way to register would have been something like "Hi, I am registering to defend Carey Price. I promise I'm not going to attack anyone or slander the victims but I feel he's being unfairly portrayed as a monster when he's not." instead of being ominous about it.
However, in fairness, I did mention what they said. Especially since if he's such a great guy as they claim he is, he'd turn himself in.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 14, 2016 8:08:56 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 13, 2016 6:43:51 GMT -5
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 13, 2016 16:56:58 GMT -5
And we have confirmation! Price has indeed been arrested in the Dominican Republic under the alias Jay Rice! I watched the WFTV live broadcast which said he is already back in the U.S.! Apparently what led to his arrest was someone messaging Grady Hill's sister on Facebook and sending in constant messages that Price was in the D.R. under that alias (he apparently was in a bar and admitted to the person about his past), she naturally didn't believe it at first, but alerted prosecutors after the person showed her a picture of Price, which eventually led to the arrest. www.wftv.com/news/local/facebook-tips-leads-to-capture-of-2003-orange-county-hit-and-run-suspect/215460072P.S. Here's a mugshot photo from wftv:  |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 13, 2016 16:57:29 GMT -5
Also, I just wanted to say since this keeps being brought up- that D.R. message board where I first found news of his capture, there's arguments between posters about how he didn't "intentionally" kill anyone- and MOST people understand already he didn't "intentionally" kill anybody. However, Price allegedly got drunk and drove drunk and killed someone as a result of his alleged reckless actions. It's possible he was a nice guy who made a mistake, but A) All actions have consequences and B) Instead of owning up and/or defending himself in court, he fled all the way to the D.R.
Florida's stricter than other states when it comes to these type of cases but it's up to a judge to decide Price's punishment if convicted. Depending on Price's sentence if convicted, if and/or when he gets out, 5, 10 or more or whatever years down the road, then I hope he turns his life around after that. Most of these cases, we only see usually they get punished and that's it. I understand they have no obligation to, but one day I'd like for one of these DUI convicts to speak to youth about the dangers of drunk driving when they get out, whether that would be Price if convicted or anyone else. However, Grady Hill's friends and family have been waiting nearly a decade and a half for someone to be accountable for their loved one's death at what's believed to be the hands of a drunk driver.
So as far as I'm concerned, today should be about them.
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Post by ninja108 on Apr 13, 2016 19:55:13 GMT -5
In Florida, the judge makes a final call on the number of years a defendant gets not a jury and since 2007, there is now a mandatory minimum of four years for DUI Manslaughter. Since this happened before 07, a judge could give him probation but given the fact he fled and the fact the victim's families are asking for prison time, that isn't likely to happen. I'll also say this, drunk drivers may not wake up with the intent to injure or kill anyone but by their actions of getting behind the wheel of a car or boat, they can end up doing just that. As for dui offenders haring their stories, I know some are ordered to do that as part of their probation after prison but IMO, it shouldn't be something they are forced to do. Unless they are truly remorseful and have accepted full responsibility for what they've done, it's a waste of time having them tell their stories.
I'll say this, based on his actions so far, Price fits into the not remorseful category. The only thing he is sad about is the fact he got caught, nothing more then that. I hope he gets the max so Grant Hill's family can get justice and then move on as best as they can. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 13, 2016 20:06:17 GMT -5
I'm talking about one of these guys taking it upon themselves to talk about drunk driving to youth without being forced to, and that having no affect on their sentence, that usually indicates some form of contrition. If Carey's convicted, he'll probably give an apology speech like everyone does. Most of them don't mean it and do it hoping for leniency from a Judge. If and/or when he gets out, his actions afterwards will dictate whether he meant anything or not. If he gets drunk again causes another accident he meant nothing. If he lives a quiet law-abiding life, well good.
(I should also note Grady's family has every right to forgive or never forgive him for what he did regardless of how remorseless or remorseful he is and what he does with his life before and after)
I agree right now he's probably just sorry he got caught. I just hope now that he is caught, he has more time to think about Grady Hill and how beloved he was.
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 13, 2016 20:10:10 GMT -5
P.S. As far as sentencing what I googled it seems someone convicted of DUI Manslaughter in Florida will serve somewhere between 4-15 years in prison.
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Post by ninja108 on Apr 13, 2016 22:26:41 GMT -5
I'm talking about one of these guys taking it upon themselves to talk about drunk driving to youth without being forced to, and that having no affect on their sentence, that usually indicates some form of contrition. If Carey's convicted, he'll probably give an apology speech like everyone does. Most of them don't mean it and do it hoping for leniency from a Judge. If and/or when he gets out, his actions afterwards will dictate whether he meant anything or not. If he gets drunk again causes another accident he meant nothing. If he lives a quiet law-abiding life, well good. (I should also note Grady's family has every right to forgive or never forgive him for what he did regardless of how remorseless or remorseful he is and what he does with his life before and after) I agree right now he's probably just sorry he got caught. I just hope now that he is caught, he has more time to think about Grady Hill and how beloved he was. Some of them have done that but those are few and far between. Even if you do feel remorse, I imagine it's not easy having to share your story with others, especially if it means reliving not only the crash but prison memories as well. As long as they don't reoffend, that's good enough for me, especially if they do go with the notion that what they did was an accident when it's not. As for Price, I honestly don't think he will give Grady Hill and his family any more thoughts in the upcoming years then he did for the past 12. I imagine the only sorrow he has is getting caught. Sad to say but just given my experience with my friends who have had loved injured or killed by this crime, I've seen the drivers concerns are only with themselves and what freedoms they will have to give up instead of what they've done to others. I wish that wasn't the reality but it is. Whatever sentence he gets, he will have to serve 85% of it per Florida law so there is a good chance he won't be seeing freedom again until his late 50's. |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 14, 2016 11:24:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean I should add despite saying what my best hopes would be for cases like this, I am just as pessimistic as you are, happy if I'm proven wrong and my best hopes actually happen, but admittedly pessimistic. DUI homicides are what I probably get on my soapbox most on this forum about as one of the the most underrated crimes I feel (DUI crimes, parental abductions, and con artist crimes are probably the three crimes I feel are more often not taken as seriously as they should be compared to other crimes), it's just despite running a crime forum I have an admittedly naive nature to try to see hope in even the worst of humanity. LOL. Anyway, one thing I did find it interesting is someone on that DR message board said "if someone comes here and doesn't leave this island or go home, I assume they're wanted for something"- and that it actually is a good point. It makes me wonder how many more guys like Price could be hiding there or anywhere in Latin America or the Caribbean and perhaps any readers of our forum in the D.R. should be a little more alert, and view all the fugitives on our forum.  |
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Post by Scumhunter on Apr 14, 2016 15:13:57 GMT -5
New article interview the victim of the crash who actually survived. It's important to point this out since although he survived unlike Grady Hill, I feel it's often overlooked that just because you survive something like this doesn't mean you also aren't affected the rest of your life. The collateral damage caused by Price's accident left more than just one victim in its' wake. The man, Paul Kimbo, says he can no longer work and do everything tasks like driving. www.wftv.com/news/local/life-has-never-been-the-same-since-being-hit-in-drunken-crash-survivor-says/217275632 |
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Post by ninja108 on Apr 14, 2016 17:36:14 GMT -5
I agree with you about this crime not being treated the way it should (along with con artists and parental abductions.) Probably because unlike a child predator or an abuser, there are many people that sadly can look at this and other cases and say there but the grace of god go I that they weren't Carey Price or other drunks who have maimed or killed people. Until people start putting themselves in the victim's shoes and quit sympathizing with the perps, this crime will keep happening. And as you noted, there were two other victims of this crime besides Grant Hill, but as with many surviving victims of this crime, they are often forgotten since they didn't die. And yet they will often suffer the effects of what was done to them the rest of their lives, long after the person responsible for it has completed whatever sentence they got.
Looking up the charges Price faces, he can get up to 25 years and I hope he gets it. It'll be a small price to pay for the damage he inflicted on so many innocent people. |
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