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Post by тσρтєиhυитєя on Mar 29, 2021 20:37:46 GMT -5
Bob Tang getting a surprise profile in a few minutes- apparently he's replacing what listings said would be John and Julianne Dimitrion. (Rather ironic since the Dimitrions got replaced at the last minute on The Hunt as well (they finally profiled them a few seasons later). This is a very deserving case to get an airing and I’m 100 % on board with it, at least we also dive into the motive behind the crime. The only reason I suspect they are made this surprise airing of Bob Tang episode is because they are likely planning to add him to the FBI’s Top Ten List sometime soon?
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 29, 2021 21:13:14 GMT -5
Overall a good episode. As always, I'll go over what I liked and didn't like.
-They acknowledged Philip Dent as capture "#1187". I hate to accuse them of this but me pakman and HeadMarshal have come up with a theory as to why they refuse to acknowledge John Walsh's additional 18 captures from the old show. (Once again not to sound like a broken record but by our count Dent should be #1205). Basically, when you capture a fugitive in a historic manner, such as getting their first capture from the new show, it generates headlines and publicity. At 1186, they are a lot closer to a "milestone" number only being 14 captures away than if they acknowledge 1205, 95 captures away. 1200= publicity. The fact that they continue to ignore us about it being 1204 before 2021 despite me showing proof to them on twitter from the amw.com archives unfortunately tells me that. Don't get me wrong, still going to support the show and mission as it's not about me but getting justice for victims, but also not going to not call them out when they do things like hire Nancy Grace despite her treatment of Elizabeth Smart or undermine John Walsh's number of success.
-Alison Gracey and Christopher Jones- at least for me, was the profile that has most emotionally connected with me this season. You could sense how heartbroken Aimee's husband was and the daughter being interviewed, having to grow up without her mom was heartbreaking.
It was a little distracting in that the Marshal interviewed was like a de facto narrator of the segment (his voice was over the re-enactment), but still, this is the one that's connected most with me at least so far.
-Bob Tang as I previously mentioned gets a surprise profile. In retrospect, I should have figured something was up when they previewed Gracey and Jones in the previous week's episodes, when the listings had John and Julianne Dimitrion as the first case. Pretty good profile, no technical complaints (I'll get to that soon).
-I know every new show that's profiled Lester Eubanks has shown the old AMW footage, but this was the old AMW footage on the new AMW. I hate to call it "cool" but it was interesting. They didn't update about the new photos. I've come to the conclusion the show is possibly not live but semi-live or a few days before based on that.
-Still too many garden variety video robbery segments that are already shown on local news broadcasts. Replace those with missing children or of course fugitives- that's how you caught Dent.
But yeah loved the first episode, felt the second one was sort of a step down to be honest, but this one was better and a little more back on track. Prepared for next week's penultimate episode of Season 1!
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 29, 2021 21:20:16 GMT -5
Bob Tang getting a surprise profile in a few minutes- apparently he's replacing what listings said would be John and Julianne Dimitrion. (Rather ironic since the Dimitrions got replaced at the last minute on The Hunt as well (they finally profiled them a few seasons later). This is a very deserving case to get an airing and I’m 100 % on board with it, at least we also dive into the motive behind the crime. The only reason I suspect they are made this surprise airing of Bob Tang episode is because they are likely planning to add him to the FBI’s Top Ten List sometime soon? Well I don't want to sound like I'm always complaining but yeah I was for his profile because at least he was a recent case and how brutal the crime was- but he's likely in Cambodia where he has citizenship. Alison Gracey and Chris Jones- despite that it was the profile that most affected me- last seen in Europe only to get away twice- yet amwtips.com you can't even use the tip form outisde the U.S. So it's a little frustrating that they are overloading on cold cases- and then they combine that with a large percentage of the recent cases being likely extradition battle cases. Not to sound egotistical, but this is why I really wish someone from the show had asked for our input before the season began. And not to sound egotistical and like I think I'm the reason for In Pursuit's capture success on ID, but before each season they had asked me for my input on the cases they were considering and for case suggestions. If only AMW had done the same lol.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 29, 2021 21:31:56 GMT -5
I forgot to answer your question- yeah I do think perhaps he's a candidate for the top ten list and that's why they profiled him. Even though he's an Asian fugitive, it still might be good timing with all the Asian hate crimes lately to get justice for Piseth as an Asian victim, but we can discuss that further in FBI general discussion or Bob Tang's thread.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 30, 2021 4:33:28 GMT -5
Also just another constructive criticism I had is they mentioned the reward for Lester Eubanks but they didn't specify that's only from the Marshals. Some people might get confused and think AMW is offering the reward if you call them as well.
John Walsh was adamant that AMW 1.0 never gave out rewards or mentioned reward money because they thought it would actually improve the quality of tips. We know that person is calling in specifically because they want to do the right thing and that they really think it's the fugitive.
I know AMW 2.0 isn't offering rewards either, but the old show never mentioned money. That's not what they wanted it to be about.
This is a relatlively minor criticism. I swear I'm enjoying the show overall but since it is new (yes its a revival but still like a new version), I want to list what I feel can be improved when I can (and being this is the first season there will be more critiques than usual- there are very few shows that are perfect right out the gate) so we can give them suggestions if they ever bother to ask- even if the ratings say that may be a lost cause at the moment.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 30, 2021 12:42:16 GMT -5
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Post by ninja108 on Mar 30, 2021 13:51:50 GMT -5
AMW 2.0 is technically a "new show" being treated as a midseason replacement. Midseason replacements are generally only a few episodes. However this is the period also known as "sweeps" which is crucial to advertisers and networks. Advertisers set their rates- how much they're willing to pay for their products to be shown- based on network ratings. This is usually when networks bring out their best - special episodes of their already best shows or hyped up new shows. So the fact that AMW has underperformed when it seems Fox brought it back thinking it would generate buzz for advertisers but did the complete opposite unfortunately does not bode well for its' future. Yea... the numbers really aren't good here.
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Post by ninja108 on Mar 30, 2021 13:53:05 GMT -5
If it was cut short, that spells doom for it.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 30, 2021 13:56:03 GMT -5
Unfortunately. I'm generally a glass half-full guy but...
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Post by HeadMarshal on Mar 30, 2021 14:17:44 GMT -5
This does not seem to be getting better. If worst comes to worst and the revival gets cancelled, I'll have a few assessments as to what went wrong. To be fair, the issues I feel happened before the revival even started and some of it was not even the show's fault.
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 30, 2021 14:23:57 GMT -5
Well there are already two issues not AMW's fault:
-Fox putting them on Monday nights against: The Bachelor, The Voice, American Idol, and March Madness.
-Their lead-in was reruns of 911. It is a popular show but these weren't new episodes.
Unfortunately I don't know if these are good enough excuses for network execs though.
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Post by ninja108 on Mar 30, 2021 21:34:11 GMT -5
Well there are already two issues not AMW's fault: -Fox putting them on Monday nights against: The Bachelor, The Voice, American Idol, and March Madness. -Their lead-in was reruns of 911. It is a popular show but these weren't new episodes. Unfortunately I don't know if these are good enough excuses for network execs though. They put it in a time slot where it was doomed to fail.
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Post by 912thamwuser on Mar 31, 2021 0:16:58 GMT -5
Well there are already two issues not AMW's fault: -Fox putting them on Monday nights against: The Bachelor, The Voice, American Idol, and March Madness. -Their lead-in was reruns of 911. It is a popular show but these weren't new episodes. Unfortunately I don't know if these are good enough excuses for network execs though. They put it in a time slot where it was doomed to fail. In other words, the executives pigeon-holed it for whatever reason?
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Post by Scumhunter on Mar 31, 2021 0:28:00 GMT -5
I think they honestly thought it would do well- 911 or 911: Lone Star did well on Mondays- but it was stupid of them to think so as AMW has always been more of a weekend show and they should have also factored in the competition.
I don't know if they purposely sabotaged it. It's weird in that one hand they heavily promoted the return and brought it back for their important sweeps period but on the other hand their time slot and lead-in decisions were grossly miscalculated.
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Post by HeadMarshal on Mar 31, 2021 18:19:54 GMT -5
I think they honestly thought it would do well- 911 or 911: Lone Star did well on Mondays- but it was stupid of them to think so as AMW has always been more of a weekend show and they should have also factored in the competition. I don't know if they purposely sabotaged it. It's weird in that one hand they heavily promoted the return and brought it back for their important sweeps period but on the other hand their time slot and lead-in decisions were grossly miscalculated. I don't see a reason to purposely sabotage a TV show from a network's perspective. You go through all that time and effort to plan and prepare the show, hire the new people who will be on it, and do all the interviews and reenactments. From a viewership perspective, if they didn't think this would work, they should have put something else on the timeslot instead. That's why I feel they really miscalculated things with the timeslot. They should have known that this show had no real chance against the specific competition it was paired up against. The one thing I'm curious about is that even if they shortened this from 10 to 5 episodes, as we can tell that's a real possibility, why even air the remaining episodes at all from FOX's perspective. FOX has cancelled shows after very few episodes before. In theory, their advertisers should want FOX to put something else on that could potentially get more ratings (if that's even a possibility that is).
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